Monday, November 21, 2011

David W. Mantik

JFK: The Medical Evidence

5 comments:

  1. Good show.

    I wish the wounds would have been discussed in the order in which they were sustained.

    There were actually five wounds, which is news to me, since I always thought there were only four wounds.

    Wound number 1 was I guess to the front part of the neck.

    Wound number 2 was to the upper right part of the back.

    Wound number 3 was, I guess to the right lower back part of the head.

    Wound number 4 was to the right temple. This was a gunshot wound that went all the way through from front to back and accounts for...

    Wound number 5 which is a big blown out area in the back of the head.

    Dr. Mantik expresses certainty that there were at least two gunshot wounds to the head, wounds 3 and 4 above, both entry wounds, one shot from the front of JFK and one shot from the back of JFK, and both of these shots happened after the vehicle had stopped for a few seconds.

    I could be wrong but it seems that JFK could have lived if only the first two wounds sustained had happened, but I guess the original plan was to have the vehicle slow down and stop so that the death dealing head shots could happen.

    I find it hard to see how whatever object hit the front of the neck could have split in two and one gone to the lund and one part go to the lining of the brain from the throat area. I guess this idea is based on the object having hit resistance of a bone that caused the splitting into two.

    I cannot remember for sure, but is the official story is that there were two shots that hit JFK and the first was to right lower back of the head and the other was the Magic Bullet, and the Magic Bullet was supposed to be the shot that was the kill shot that they needed. Also they had to have only a certain number of shots because Oswald could only gotten off two shots and he was the only shooter???

    Another area that seemed a bit unclear was that we do not have the "original xrays" but there were some xrays that Dr. Mantik thought were valid and not altered. Also, the original autopsy report seems to have been true and available and reliable. That seems odd that they would let the true autopsy report go out if they were so careful to alter many xrays and even amend of change JFK's actual body in preparation for burial.

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  2. Boy, did I get this wrong. My apologies.
    Wish I had read

    JFK: What We Know Now that We didn’t Know Then

    at VeteransToday.com This article explains about the xrays and autopsy report etc.

    Wound Number 1 (NOT # 3)

    The last two wounds sustained, and I am not sure in which order

    were what I showed wrongly as Wounds 1 & 2 and these two wounds happened while the vehicle was slowing or stopped.

    Wound number 1 was to the right lower back part of the head.

    Wound Number 2 (NOT Wound # 4)

    was to the right temple. This was a gunshot wound that went all the way through from front to back and accounts for...
    No this was the “second shot”

    Wound number 3 which is a big blown out area in the back of the head.

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    Wound numbers 4 (to the front part of the neck.

    and 5 (upper right part of the back.) I do not know in what order 4 and 5 were sustained and guess these would have been the "third and fourth shots that hit JFK."

    Now, of course, I was wrong in thinking that JFK could have survived shots 1 and 2, wounds 1 and 2. Wound Number 2, the "second shot" that hit JFK was the kill shot.

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    I thought JFK was already hit BEFORE the vehicle started slowing.

    Who knows, I may still be terribly confused.
    I know I could not piece it together correctly by just listening to this interview of Dr. Mantik.

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  3. Jeannon,

    See if this helps:

    (1) the first shot was fired from the top of the County Records Building and hit JFK about 5.5" below the collar to the right of his spine;

    (2) the second shot passed through the windshield and entered his throat, hit skeleton and fragmented, part going down into his right lung, the other part upward rupturing the tough tentorium;

    (3) the third shot hit him in the back of his head slightly to the left of his external occipital protuberance (the bony part were you rest your head reclining in a bathtub);

    (4) the fourth entered just above his right temple and exploded, creating shock waves that blew about 1/2 his brains out the back of his head to the left rear.

    The other possible shot was an entry around his left temple, but that one is still in dispute. I do not believe it, because there was no blow out to the right rear, which should have taken place from such a shot.

    Go to "Dealey Plaza Revisited: What happened to JFK?" for a diagram of the shooting sequence. I hope this helps. If it was unclear to you, I am sure it was also unclear to many others.

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  4. Thank you.

    When I read your JFK What We Know Now piece. you actually wrote "first shot TO THE HEAD", second shot TO THE HEAD" but I was careless and read that as the first and second shot.

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  5. And JEANNON, when you said, "Also they had to have only a certain number of shots because Oswald could only gotten off two shots and he was the only shooter???" it made me think of the following:

    The reason he was supposed to have gotten off only 2 shots was that 3 bullets were set down in the 6th floor (neatly) and the Zapruder was also so manipulated (for many reasons) to make the limo continue, that there was no time for more shots than 3. In fact, they were going to use the 3rd shot to get Connolly ... but one shot missed, and was so obvious (a bystander was hit, down the street, by concrete from the missed shot), that Connolly had to have been hit by the same bullets which killed Kennedy. So they made the back wound by knife, or at least changed its height verbally (by Arlen Specter) so that, on the face of it, one bullet went from front to back without hitting bony structure (impossible) and went into Connolly in two directions ... in the official story.

    Mantik's contribution was partly to show that the neck intervenes in a bullet trajectory out the front of the neck, from anywhere near the spine entering the back.

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